Comments for Lisa Goldman http://lisagoldman.net Previously On the Face Fri, 09 Mar 2012 01:25:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 Comment on A child is dead: Charles Enderlin on the ‘Al-Durrah incident,’ 10 years later by Ben Alofs http://lisagoldman.net/2010/10/11/a-child-is-dead-charles-enderlin-on-the-al-durrah-incident-10-years-later/comment-page-1/#comment-93991 Ben Alofs Fri, 09 Mar 2012 01:25:32 +0000 http://lisagoldman.net/?p=1165#comment-93991 Thanks, Lisa, for writing about Charles Enderlin's book "Un Enfant est Mort". It is a dispassionate acount of the shooting of Mohammed al-Dura along side which the conspiracy theories proposed by the likes of Philippe Karsenty, Richard Landes and Yehuda David are mere wishful fantasy. I for one never thought that the above three were honestly interested in looking for the truth. They found the powerful symbolism associated with the image of a Palestinian boy shot brutally by Israeli soldiers intolerable. Both Karsenty and David were sued by respectively France 2/Charles Enderlin and Jamal al-Dura for defamation. Karsenty had claimed that the shooting of Mohammed al-Dura was a fake and David had called Jamal al-Dura a liar. Karsenty was initially found guilty, but was acquitted by an appeal court, that ruled, that he had the right to express his opinion. Yehuda David was found not guilty of defamation for the same reason, namely that he had the right to express his opinion. Both Karsenty and David then hailed this as if the court had ruled that the Mohammed al-Dura shooting and the shooting of Jamal al-Dura had been a fake, which was not at all the case. The French courts had not ruled on whether the shooting of Mohammed al-Dura was fake or not. This underlines the disingenuity of Karsenty, David and Landes. That is why I am very glad that on Tuesday February 28 2012 the Cour de Cassation, the Supreme Court in France, reversed the acquittal of Philippe Karsenty and ordered a retrial. I am very confident that a rational weighing of the evidence within the proper context will result in the unmasking of the phony conspiracy theories. I have looked at all the available footage shot at Netzarim junction on 30 September 2000. I have looked at the claims of Landes and Karsenty: that because of impossible angles Mohammed and his father could not have been shot from the Israeli positions, that the child and his father were play acting (!), and that the other Palestinians at Netzarim junction on 30 September 2000 were also engaged in massive acts of theater play, to make it look as if Israelis shot a Palestinian child. I declare an interest, because I have worked in Palestinian hospitals in the Gaza Strip, the Westbank and Lebanon. I am a medical professional and looked at the images with a medically trained eye. What becomes obvious is that Landes, Karsenty and David only see what they want to see. I find it astonishing that Landes omits to mention the large blood stain on Mohammed's sweater, which appeared after the hail of bullits, that threw up dust in the street, resulting in the fatal shooting. Only a blind person would have missed this. Landes claims that in the last images he sees a boy play acting ("peeking at the camera"). My medically trained eye saw a critically injured child, hit in the abdomen by high velocity munitions, in medical shock and slowly exsanguinating. I have dealth myself with people who were shot in the abdomen and were exsanguinating. These people may move while they exsanguinate until they die. This is what I saw in the last images. Indeed, Talal, the Palestinian cameraman was too early when he shouted that the boy had died. The photographs from al-Shifa showing the abdominal wound of Mohammed with bowels protruding make clear what happened. Jamal, Mohammed's father was hit in the right hand and arm and suffered tendon, bone and nerve injurie. He was also shot in the right hip area, which was exposed. Also Landes' claim of all the Palestians play acting is easily refuted by studying the images closely. The same goes for the so-called impossible angles. The fact is that only rightwing Zionists and their supporters will support the conspiracy theories. They only see what they want to see and ignore anything that contradicts their observations. That is why I am glad that Karsenty's acquittal has been overturned and a retrial will take place. Enderlin's book will be very helpful to refute all the wild conspiracy theories. Thanks, Lisa, for writing about Charles Enderlin’s book “Un Enfant est Mort”. It is a dispassionate acount of the shooting of Mohammed al-Dura along side which the conspiracy theories proposed by the likes of Philippe Karsenty, Richard Landes and Yehuda David are mere wishful fantasy.
I for one never thought that the above three were honestly interested in looking for the truth. They found the powerful symbolism associated with the image of a Palestinian boy shot brutally by Israeli soldiers intolerable.
Both Karsenty and David were sued by respectively France 2/Charles Enderlin and Jamal al-Dura for defamation. Karsenty had claimed that the shooting of Mohammed al-Dura was a fake and David had called Jamal al-Dura a liar. Karsenty was initially found guilty, but was acquitted by an appeal court, that ruled, that he had the right to express his opinion. Yehuda David was found not guilty of defamation for the same reason, namely that he had the right to express his opinion. Both Karsenty and David then hailed this as if the court had ruled that the Mohammed al-Dura shooting and the shooting of Jamal al-Dura had been a fake, which was not at all the case. The French courts had not ruled on whether the shooting of Mohammed al-Dura was fake or not. This underlines the disingenuity of Karsenty, David and Landes.
That is why I am very glad that on Tuesday February 28 2012 the Cour de Cassation, the Supreme Court in France, reversed the acquittal of Philippe Karsenty and ordered a retrial.
I am very confident that a rational weighing of the evidence within the proper context will result in the unmasking of the phony conspiracy theories.
I have looked at all the available footage shot at Netzarim junction on 30 September 2000. I have looked at the claims of Landes and Karsenty: that because of impossible angles Mohammed and his father could not have been shot from the Israeli positions, that the child and his father were play acting (!), and that the other Palestinians at Netzarim junction on 30 September 2000 were also engaged in massive acts of theater play, to make it look as if Israelis shot a Palestinian child.
I declare an interest, because I have worked in Palestinian hospitals in the Gaza Strip, the Westbank and Lebanon. I am a medical professional and looked at the images with a medically trained eye.
What becomes obvious is that Landes, Karsenty and David only see what they want to see. I find it astonishing that Landes omits to mention the large blood stain on Mohammed’s sweater, which appeared after the hail of bullits, that threw up dust in the street, resulting in the fatal shooting. Only a blind person would have missed this. Landes claims that in the last images he sees a boy play acting (“peeking at the camera”).
My medically trained eye saw a critically injured child, hit in the abdomen by high velocity munitions, in medical shock and slowly exsanguinating. I have dealth myself with people who were shot in the abdomen and were exsanguinating. These people may move while they exsanguinate until they die. This is what I saw in the last images. Indeed, Talal, the Palestinian cameraman was too early when he shouted that the boy had died.
The photographs from al-Shifa showing the abdominal wound of Mohammed with bowels protruding make clear what happened.
Jamal, Mohammed’s father was hit in the right hand and arm and suffered tendon, bone and nerve injurie. He was also shot in the right hip area, which was exposed.
Also Landes’ claim of all the Palestians play acting is easily refuted by studying the images closely. The same goes for the so-called impossible angles.
The fact is that only rightwing Zionists and their supporters will support the conspiracy theories. They only see what they want to see and ignore anything that contradicts their observations.
That is why I am glad that Karsenty’s acquittal has been overturned and a retrial will take place.
Enderlin’s book will be very helpful to refute all the wild conspiracy theories.

]]> Comment on On the future of this blog by wahine toa http://lisagoldman.net/2012/01/23/on-the-future-of-this-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-79502 wahine toa Tue, 24 Jan 2012 23:33:27 +0000 http://lisagoldman.net/?p=1323#comment-79502 I'm very sorry to hear of the loss of your mother Lisa. It's wonderful that you were able to be with her in the end. I’m very sorry to hear of the loss of your mother Lisa. It’s wonderful that you were able to be with her in the end.

]]> Comment on On the future of this blog by Mo-ha-med http://lisagoldman.net/2012/01/23/on-the-future-of-this-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-79336 Mo-ha-med Tue, 24 Jan 2012 14:29:07 +0000 http://lisagoldman.net/?p=1323#comment-79336 For some reason it took a day for the post to come via email. Huh. Well, how about cross-posting all the 972 articles (and others) here? At least post the first paragraph then a link to 972... but don't let OnTheFace die! The internet would just be a lesser place. :-| For some reason it took a day for the post to come via email. Huh.

Well, how about cross-posting all the 972 articles (and others) here? At least post the first paragraph then a link to 972… but don’t let OnTheFace die! The internet would just be a lesser place. :-|

]]> Comment on A child is dead: Charles Enderlin on the ‘Al-Durrah incident,’ 10 years later by Jerry Levy http://lisagoldman.net/2010/10/11/a-child-is-dead-charles-enderlin-on-the-al-durrah-incident-10-years-later/comment-page-1/#comment-58597 Jerry Levy Sun, 07 Aug 2011 23:32:10 +0000 http://lisagoldman.net/?p=1165#comment-58597 This "interview" was terrible. The correspondent did not challenge or question the crux of the story: 1. Was this incident a fabrication?, 2. What was the main arguments and points of his accusers and how did he respond to them, and 3. What would he do differently now in reporting the story. It was a very sympathetic and softball interview. The only thing I got out of it was that the France II reporter approaches his reporting from an anti-Israeli perspective. Dennis Ross, Bill Clinton's special Middle East negotiator during the Oslo process pointed out in his book that Israel made a "generous" offer to Arafat which was rejected out of hand with no counters. This interviewer should have asked about this. Real bad piece. This “interview” was terrible. The correspondent did not challenge or question the crux of the story: 1. Was this incident a fabrication?, 2. What was the main arguments and points of his accusers and how did he respond to them, and 3. What would he do differently now in reporting the story. It was a very sympathetic and softball interview. The only thing I got out of it was that the France II reporter approaches his reporting from an anti-Israeli perspective. Dennis Ross, Bill Clinton’s special Middle East negotiator during the Oslo process pointed out in his book that Israel made a “generous” offer to Arafat which was rejected out of hand with no counters. This interviewer should have asked about this. Real bad piece.

]]> Comment on Removing the Mubarak name from public places by Justin http://lisagoldman.net/2011/04/21/removing-the-mubarak-name-from-public-places/comment-page-1/#comment-55768 Justin Thu, 30 Jun 2011 04:21:45 +0000 http://lisagoldman.net/?p=1304#comment-55768 Lisa, I hope this won't be another year-long silence from you. Is everything okay? You're leaving us in suspense here! Lisa, I hope this won’t be another year-long silence from you. Is everything okay? You’re leaving us in suspense here!

]]> Comment on My opinion piece on Libya for the New York Times by Anna http://lisagoldman.net/2011/02/27/my-opinion-piece-on-libya-for-the-new-york-times/comment-page-1/#comment-54699 Anna Wed, 15 Jun 2011 10:56:03 +0000 http://lisagoldman.net/?p=1230#comment-54699 Congrats Lisa. Sorry if this comes way too late. I have been following you on 972 though. Congrats Lisa. Sorry if this comes way too late. I have been following you on 972 though.

]]> Comment on Soldiers planted flowers in Tahrir Square by Lisa Goldman http://lisagoldman.net/2011/04/25/soldiers-planted-flowers-in-tahrir-square/comment-page-1/#comment-50402 Lisa Goldman Fri, 29 Apr 2011 11:39:41 +0000 http://lisagoldman.net/?p=1316#comment-50402 MH - I have <a href="http://lisagoldman.net/2011/04/03/1276/" rel="nofollow">already written about</a> the story of Mikael Nabil, with whom I have mutual friends. Don't expect me to write about every single story that occurs; but equally, do read my articles carefully before commenting. MH – I have already written about the story of Mikael Nabil, with whom I have mutual friends. Don’t expect me to write about every single story that occurs; but equally, do read my articles carefully before commenting.

]]> Comment on Soldiers planted flowers in Tahrir Square by Magued Hanna http://lisagoldman.net/2011/04/25/soldiers-planted-flowers-in-tahrir-square/comment-page-1/#comment-50401 Magued Hanna Fri, 29 Apr 2011 11:35:47 +0000 http://lisagoldman.net/?p=1316#comment-50401 A Story Lisa turn a blind eye toward: http://www.democracyreview.com/2011/04/maikel-nabil-news-from-magr-jail.html A Story Lisa turn a blind eye toward: http://www.democracyreview.com/2011/04/maikel-nabil-news-from-magr-jail.html

]]> Comment on Revolution’s benefits passed over Egypt’s factory workers by yasser shendy http://lisagoldman.net/2011/04/20/revolutions-benefits-passed-over-egypts-factory-workers/comment-page-1/#comment-49718 yasser shendy Sun, 24 Apr 2011 00:35:09 +0000 http://lisagoldman.net/?p=1283#comment-49718 Dear Lisa Thanks alot for taking care of our matter .And you way in writting rights .Now we resumed work in company ,And i hope every thing will be Ok soon , Best Regards Yasser Shendy INDORAMA 0020106152407 Dear Lisa
Thanks alot for taking care of our matter .And you way in writting rights .Now we resumed work in company ,And i hope every thing will be Ok soon ,
Best Regards
Yasser Shendy
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]]> Comment on Removing the Mubarak name from public places by Lisa Goldman http://lisagoldman.net/2011/04/21/removing-the-mubarak-name-from-public-places/comment-page-1/#comment-49707 Lisa Goldman Sat, 23 Apr 2011 20:38:29 +0000 http://lisagoldman.net/?p=1304#comment-49707 Fiona - The Mubarak sons are being detained pending investigation into corruption charges. That is the equivalent of detention without bail pending trial. The trial of the Mubarak sons will take place when the investigation is complete. They will be represented by counsel in a civilian court. Fiona – The Mubarak sons are being detained pending investigation into corruption charges. That is the equivalent of detention without bail pending trial. The trial of the Mubarak sons will take place when the investigation is complete. They will be represented by counsel in a civilian court.

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