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Jaffa, habibti, our relationship is complicated

Moving from Tel Aviv to Jaffa turned out to be about much more than lower rent and proximity to the sea. In a city plagued by ethnic, national and socio-economic divisions, there is no such thing as an apolitical decision

I moved to a mixed Arab-Jewish building in Jaffa last spring, a refugee from the astronomical rents in Tel Aviv. For more than one thousand shekels less than I paid for my previous apartment in Tel Aviv, which was an oppressively small box on a noisy street, I rented a spacious, sun-splashed space in Jaffa, with a balcony shaded by a tree, windows that open in three different directions and a breeze from the sea. The flea market is two minutes away, the local grocery shops and restaurants are excellent, and there are some serious art galleries down in the restored fishing port.

When I went to sign the contract at the home of my new landlord, a secular Ashkenazi man with a slow walk and an asthmatic wheeze who was born in Tel Aviv more than 70 years ago, he asked me why I wanted to move to Jaffa. An odd question, I thought. Did he not think his apartment was a suitable place to live? Since my financial considerations were none of his business, I said that I wanted to live closer to the sea and that I had friends in Jaffa.

“Jewish friends?” he asked.

“Yes,” I answered. “Jewish.”

Looking at me approvingly, he said, “It’s good that educated young people like you are moving to Jaffa.”

“Why?” I asked.

“So that the Arabs won’t control Jaffa,” he said.

Later I heard from Yossi, the head of the building committee, that my landlord had taken him aside and promised that he would never rent to Arabs. “Your landlord thought I was a racist just like him,” said Yossi, who happens to sit on the board of a left-wing NGO with a bi-national agenda.

While I was abroad the following month, my landlord came over and nailed a mezuzah on my front door frame – without asking my permission. Clearly, it was important for him that people identified his property as a ‘Jewish’ apartment.

Meanwhile, friends from Tel Aviv reacted strangely when they visited me. Glancing askance at the calligraphic shahada over the door of the family next door, they asked if I felt safe living in the building. “Do you talk to your neighbours?” they asked.

“Of course I talk to my neighbours!” I answered indignantly. And I do. Samira, who works at a restaurant, feeds me cookies and gentle smiles; and Khalil, who is a garage mechanic, always has a cousin who can fix whatever breaks down. I even talk to Abed, the perpetually unsmiling drug dealer who lives on the ground floor, although he rarely answers me.

But we do not socialize. We are neighbours and acquaintances, but not friends. And the reasons are related to class – that other political issue. When my friend Issa came to visit, he, a polyglot Christian Palestinian-Israeli who is studying for a graduate degree at Tel Aviv University, laughed and said, “You certainly chose to be a real bohemian, didn’t you?” He would not dream of living in my dirty, un-renovated old building with its working-class tenants. Or, as my friend Nizo, a Palestinian refugee living in Canada, put it jokingly, after hearing my description of Abed and his family, “Habibti, you can have those Palestinians. It’s okay, we have plenty.”

It was only after I moved to Jaffa that I made this discovery: in general, upper middle-class Arabs who work in the professions (academia, law, journalism, medicine) do not live there. There are a few actors and intellectuals that gather at Café Yafa, and a small, predominantly Christian middle class that sends its children to the private schools run by the Catholic, Orthodox and Protestant churches. But mostly, the intellectual and professional Palestinian-Israelis live in Neve Shalom, Nazareth, Haifa and Ramleh – or in the splashy new suburb built above Um El Fahm. The Palestinian-Israeli celebrities often live in Tel Aviv – as do actors Clara Khoury and Yousef Sweid.

The Arabs of Jaffa are mostly poor – impoverished, even. Some of them are migrant workers from the villages in the Galilee; others are former army informants (collaborators) from the occupied territories; or maybe Egyptians who came over to work in the 1990s, then married local women and stayed; and a few – a very few – have lived there since before 1948. They are, as a journalist from Nazareth told me, very disconnected from the Arabs in the rest of Israel. There are no Arabic-language bookshops or lending-libraries in Jaffa, unless you count the small collection of political books at Yafa Cafe. There is no cinema that screens Arabic films; no major Arab cultural events; and no local radio station in Arabic. The Alhambra Theater on Jerusalem Boulevard, where the great Egyptian singer Oum Kulthoum appeared in the late 1930s, was recently restored to its Bauhaus glory and is now a Scientology center.

Lately, National-Religious (religious right-wing) Jews have been settling in Jaffa with the stated intention of ‘Judaizing’ it. Boys study for a year between high school and army service at yeshivas that were established by rabbis from West Bank settlements. Religious girls, exempt from regular army service, perform a year of national service at the local public high school, teaching Jewish holidays and customs to a student body that is 45 percent Arab.

On several occasions, these teenage national-religious youth have held loud demonstrations in mixed Jaffa neighbourhoods on Saturdays. As you can see in the video below, they wave flags, sing nationalist songs and dance in circles on the streets – on Shabbat. Which I find a bit strange, because in my religious youth we were taught that the Sabbath was a day for peaceful contemplation and harmony. Also, it seems pretty clear that they have not come to introduce themselves to the neighbours and invite them over for coffee.









Two weeks ago, a large group of those teens, who had a police license to demonstrate, gathered in front of a mosque on Jerusalem Boulevard just as evening prayers ended. According to this report (HEB) on the Maariv-owned website NRG, the teens shouted slogans that included, according to eyewitnesses quoted in the article, “Death to Arabs” and “Mohamed is a pig.” The police had to separate the Jewish and Arab teenagers; and Sami Abu Shehadah, a community organizer, said the incident could easily have ended in “a massacre.”

Al Nazha Mosque on Jaffa's Jerusalem Boulevard, where right-wing Jewish teens demonstrated and shouted "Death to Arabs" (photo: Lisa Goldman)

Jaffa radicalized me, in a way. I think about politics when I walk through Ajami, the neighbourhood that was, until recently, an Arab ghetto. Over the past few years Ajami has been going through a gentrification process that involved pushing the Arab families out of their neglected old homes in order to make way for the construction of multi-million dollar residences with underground parking.

Rifaat “Jimmy” Turk, a community organizer who was the first Arab to play in Israel’s national soccer team back in the 1970s, rages as he points at the new playground and park. “I lived here for 50 years and the city never paved a centimeter of road. I devoted most of my adult life to co-existence. When I sat on the city council I used to beg them to have the garbage collected regularly and for a playground to be built for the kids, but they always said there was no budget, and I believed them. Then the Jews moved in and suddenly there was a budget!” Two years ago, Jimmy’s 72 year-old widowed mother received an eviction notice for the house she had moved into as a 16 year-old bride, and in which she had raised nine children.

I think about politics when I look at the crumbling and neglected Muslim cemetery, right next to the architecturally striking new building that houses the Peres Center for Peace. And I think about it when I see that the section of Yehuda Hayamit Street that runs past the Army Radio building was completely repaved in less than two months, while the road’s continuation, which runs through residential blocks occupied mostly by Arabs, was left dug up for 9 months, preventing people from walking on the sidewalks. That ended up bankrupting small business owners – like the barber who had had his shop there for more than 40 years.

Peres Center for Peace in Ajami (photo: Ori/Wikimedia Commons)

I think about politics when I see riot control forces (Yasam) roaming around Jaffa, randomly stopping local Arabs and demanding to see their identity cards.

And I think about politics when I read that the principal of the local public high school forbade Arab students, who made up 45 percent of the student body, to speak Arabic between themselves in the classroom, even though Arabic is one of Israel’s two official languages. Meanwhile, the students from the former Soviet Union were not forbidden to speak Russian.

Jaffa is an interesting and cool place to live. It reminds me a bit of New York City’s Harlem 10 years ago, when it was an edgy place for bohemian whites to live – and a ghetto that most blacks wanted to leave. I just did not expect to feel like a colonizer for having moved 15 minutes’ walk from Tel Aviv. But, I do.

This post was translated into Hebrew by Ronen Wodlinguer and published on the Project Democracy blog, as well as on Ha’Okets. The English version was originally published on +972 Magazine.

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40 Comments so far (Add 1 more)

  1. Would you also feel like a colonizer if, hypothetically, you and other secular Israeli Jews (and Arabs, for that matter) were to move into economically deprived ultra-Orthodox neighborhoods throughout the country? Slowly but surely changing the demography, and as a result, the longstanding culture and “feel” of such neighborhoods?

    I’m not saying that would be a bad thing, quite the opposite. I’m a fan of gentrification because it brings cultural and economic capital to previously deprived places. In my opinion, upwardly mobile people bringing their skills and connections to new places in return for cheap rents is not a cause for guilt, but enthusiasm (I live in Washington, DC, and the situation you describe certainly applies to numerous neighborhoods here).

    You’re obviously more ambivalent on the matter of gentrification, but isn’t it a double standard to condemn, on one hand, the noxious comments from some rabbis about not renting to Arabs in traditionally Jewish neighborhoods, and on the other hand, feeling a sense of guilt about Jews moving into a historically Arab neighborhood? Shouldn’t citizens of a country have a right to move and live wherever in that country they choose, as long as they can afford it?

    1. Raeefa
    on February 1st, 2011 at 11:32 pm
  2. Hi Raeefa, I use the term ‘colonizer’ in a metaphorical sense rather than a literal sense.

    As for gentrification, I don’t have a problem with it in principle. In Jaffa, however, it has resulted in the displacement of people who have no money and nowhere to go – not to mention the breakup of communities.

    Your question about living in an ultra-Orthodox neighbourhood is theoretical, because ultra-Orthodox Jews won’t tolerate secular people’s lifestyles in their neighbourhoods.

    2. Lisa Goldman
    on February 1st, 2011 at 11:46 pm
  3. Hey Lisa,

    I understand how you feel. I see this Gentrification in Berlin as well. Like tommorrow there will be a forceful eviction of a house that has been squatted for two decades. It’s in a downtown neighborhood that has changed from completly run down (former socialist part of germany) to now an upperclass area with rents, that are way out of what poor people, who used to live there, can afford. But unlike the most people who are isolated and indivualized and therefore easily displaced, these squatters are organized and won’t go peacefully and voluntarly. So 2000 riot-cops from all over germany will enforce “the law” of the people who have money and own buildings over those who don’t.

    I read your blog for some time and I see your radicalization in the articles you write and I see my own political radicalization because of all the repression und control from people with money and power over those without. It feel’s good to know that one is not alone in this world. You’re not alone.There are people who share your anger, your doubts, your fear and your hope and dreams.

    Please: Take care.

    from Berlin with love,
    Michael

    3. Michael
    on February 1st, 2011 at 11:50 pm
  4. Hi Lisa – I know you were using “colonizer” as a metaphor. I didn’t think you were literally leading a conquering army into Jaffa. My hypothetical question to you was also in the metaphorical context.

    My assumption is that if enough non-religious individuals and families move into ultra-Orthodox neighborhoods, the religious inhabitants will no longer form a majority and thus will have little say in how the others conduct themselves. As a result, they will either learn to live with the change, or move out if they won’t tolerate it. Again, this is all hypothetical, but I think my question to you is relevant to your post: Would you feel equally uncomfortable about a religious Jewish neighborhood being forced to change its character or disintegrate completely due to demographic changes in that neighborhood?

    As for the displacement that takes place, isn’t that the case with gentrification in general? People with less capital are usually pushed out of neighborhoods in which they’ve been living for decades (and I spent a considerable time in Berlin, so I know what he’s talking about, though I don’t agree with his conclusions.) It happens, it’s sad.

    It is awful when rabbis speak out against renting to Arab citizens in Jewish neighborhoods; it should be equally wrong to come out against Jews living in a historically Arab neighborhood (presumably both Arabs moving to whichever Jewish neighborhood, and Jews moving to Jaffa, unlike some poorer inhabitants of Jaffa, could technically live somewhere else, but they shouldn’t have to in their own country).

    4. Raeefa
    on February 2nd, 2011 at 12:26 am
  5. Raeefa., gentrification of Arab neighbourhoods in Israel is political because Arabs are limited by the Israel Land Authority as to where they can buy property; and even in the areas that do not fall under ILA authority, Jewish landlords commonly defer Arab tenants. Even if Arab citizens were able to live anywhere they wanted in Israel, there is also the issue of access to schools and social services in Arabic.

    Sure, if a bunch of secular Jews decided they wanted to move into an Orthodox neighbourhood, they theoretically could do so. The question is why they would want to do so, since ultra-Orthodox areas are undesirable in terms of location (inconvenient) and population (hostile). Also, ultra-Orthodox Jews are politically strong, whereas Palestinian citizens of Israel have extremely limited power (at best), since their elected representatives are never invited to join the government and therefore have little leverage in the legislature. That is how ultra-Orthodox communities obtain funding to maintain their schools and services, whereas Arab communities tend overwhelmingly to lack schools, social services and infrastructure.

    But rather than engage in a long thread of Q & A, perhaps you would like to make your point in statement rather than question form.

    5. Lisa Goldman
    on February 2nd, 2011 at 12:40 am
  6. Michael, that is a really sweet comment. It’s lovely to hear from you; thank you.

    6. Lisa Goldman
    on February 2nd, 2011 at 12:48 am
  7. I think I made my “point” in my first comment to your post. I asked you the question, because I genuinely wanted to know why you were applying different standards to different groups of people (and whether you were doing that in the first place).

    7. Raeefa
    on February 2nd, 2011 at 1:02 am
  8. Okay. So I’ve answered your question.

    8. Lisa Goldman
    on February 2nd, 2011 at 1:15 am
  9. ive been living in yaffo for four years.. i didnt leave telaviv for money reasons.. i left it for cultural reasons.. i couldnt stand the telavivians.. turned out to be a great investment.. but people laughed at me at the time.. i remember before your last move i suggested yaffo and you seemed pretty intent on not looking into it.. slowly but surely the country has woken up to this gem and i totally agree with you that it is coming at the expense of many who have loved it for much longer..

    but if you dont mind ill share my angle:

    (a) the best thing about yaffo is the community feel.. anyone who rolls their sleeves up and digs in finds warm and loving neighbours.. even my worst neighbours are still nicer to me than the pretentious snobs who rented in the building i lived in before hand in the old/quiet/(frankly boring) north.. every morning i leave home with an average of 3/4 have a nice days.. my building has 8 entrances and there is a sense amongst those who were there before me (and perhaps even since all the yuppie immigrants have arrived) that the community is still alive and that many of the yuppies are blending in..

    (b) i love the arab cultural events in yaffo.. i go every year to the jewish arab community centre for the massive yiftar and there are others.. probably not enough.. but there are.. besides i dont have a problem with not having “arab events”.. its not like every non arab event is by default a “jewish event”.. my arab friends in yaffo do attend mainstream cultural happenings and they laugh at me when i gently talk to them about how they feel about israeli society.. many of them while acknowledging the inherent racism shake off the sappy victim syndrome and boast the good things in their lives like any ramat sharonian..

    (c) many of my arab friends have average means – in a way that mimics the lifestyle of most of my jewish friends.. theyre mostly not hungry and mostly not super rich.. although i know a fair few who are well off.. and yes i also know some super poor.. but i study with some jews who are really poor too and i dont see them havinga future in the centre of the country either.. is getting too pricey for even some of my better off friends..

    (d) yehuda hayamit took ages to sort out.. the improvement in the pace of works is very recent and my guess is that it may be related to teh fact that communities in yaffo are better organised now and more people complain.. i know that in my area we have community representatives who comunicate regularly with teh council and teh rest of us use the hotlines.. we have a newsletter and periodic meetings.. and im not talking about teh building.. im talking about the neighbourhood..

    (e) the lack of consideration in yaffo is very multilateral.. most shops in my area that are run by arabs stay open on yom kippur and i have noticed a distinct habit of cranking up the music every yom kippur.. not to mention driving in an unbridled perhaps even riskier fashion down the streets.. the newly reopened siksik mosque airs an extremely loud call to prayer to its mostly jewish neighbours and even though i think their melody is the nicest in the whole of yaffo – it is still very invasive..

    (f) during the demo you spoke about apparently jewish religious youth hurled rocks at the j blvd mosque and chanted death to arabs.. apparently the police didnt intervene..i have also heard of enough incidents where jews were aggrieved and the police stated that the matter was a sensitive intercommunal issue and that they couldnt inertvene notwithstanding blatant violations of law..

    (g) i loathe the new orientalist buildings of ajami.. i think their architects should be questioned.. they demonstrate a clear failure to understand the significance of the levantine features that are pimped into mere decoration across the structures that lace the slope of the village..

    (h) i bemoan the failure of our educational system to create meaningful opportunities for youth to meet other young scholars during their formative years and celebrate their diversity..

    (i) last year when i visited my old high school in the north of telaviv – i was surprised to see the smiling faces of a cluster of my arab neighbours who travel across town every day to and from my school.. when i was there 16 years ago we barely had sefardi kids..

    bottom line – i love living in yaffo and pray everyday that the yuppies dont shenkinise what we have..

    9. lirun
    on February 2nd, 2011 at 3:31 pm
  10. Lisa, thanks for writing about your experiences so that others can share them. The world is watching events in Tunisia, Egypt and elsewhere. We struggle to understand the realities on the ground, and people like you do so much to help. Thank you.

    10. Jaraparilla
    on February 3rd, 2011 at 2:30 pm
  11. Hi Lisa, I have been reading your blog on and off for years, but now is the first time I am actually putting fingers to the keyboard. I offer a contrasting story: my Jerusalem neighbourhood of French Hill. When we moved to Israel in the very early 1970′s, this was a brand new neighbourhood. Adjacent to it was a small sleepy hamlet of Issaywie, an Arab village of one street of tin roofed huts, with goats grazing. Issaywie is now a town of over 20,000, with three of four mosques, whose minarets blare Allah Hu Akbar at the pre-dawn hours waking the kaffirs at French Hill. Except, our neighbourhood is no longer exclusively Jewish. Almost every building has Arab residents who rent apartments. The little mall’s cafes are sometimes filled entirely by Arab patrons. The playgrounds are sometimes (often, during the Intifada) are overrun by gangs of Arab teenagers. Co-existence? Perhaps. If only it were not mortally dangerous for the Jews of French Hill to set foot in Issawie, a mere quarter of a mile away. I am thinking of moving to Jaffa now.

    11. fiona
    on February 12th, 2011 at 5:33 am
  12. Hi Fiona,

    Your response saddens me, obviously, since my point is to highlight injustice and gain the reader’s sympathy. So it seems that I succeeded only in making you angry. What a pity.

    I used to live in French Hill too, in the 1980s. I remember it as a sort of sterile neighbourhood, but I enjoyed the easy walking proximity to the American Colony Hotel & the Old City – and it was close to the Hebrew University. Well, I am glad the people of Issawiyeh are able to buy homes in French Hill – since it is in occupied East Jerusalem, after all, meaning it is their territory; and since the Jerusalem municipality refuses to provide basic services to Issawiyeh. Did you know that the shortfall of classrooms in Issawiyeh is so huge that there are 80 children per classroom, and that many parents cannot get their children a place in school at all? That is why you have teenage gangs, as you describe them. Perhaps if they could go to school, get an education and find a job, they wouldn’t hang out in gangs.

    The municipality doesn’t collect the garbage from Issawiyeh, either. Or pave the roads. And the municipality won’t provide building permits for Palestinian residents of Issawiyeh, but they do provide private security guards for Jewish settlers, who plonk themselves down in the overcrowded neighbourhood and place video cameras outside their home that they use to monitor their neighbourhoods. Some of those cameras are actually angled so that they look directly into the homes of Palestinian residents, meaning they can’t even have privacy behind their own closed doors. At night, Israeli riot police (yasam) camp out on Palestinian rooftops. They leave behind bottles of urine (at least they don’t pee on the roofs, eh?) and piles of garbage – snack wrappers, meal leftovers, empty coffee cups, etc.

    At the same time, East Jerusalem Palestinians cannot buy property in West Jerusalem; and of course Jews won’t rent to them. But they do pay municipal taxes. So no wonder they are looking for a better place to live.

    Also, while I can understand that teenage ‘gangs’ might disturb you – although you do not say they are violent – I do wonder at the distasteful way in which you describe Arabs sitting in cafes. Are you unwilling to sit in a cafe with an Arab? That sounds like a Woolworth’s lunch counter in 1958 Alabama.

    12. Lisa Goldman
    on February 12th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
  13. Lisa, it seems that it was I who made you angry. Please let us not throw around big words like “Alabama lunch counter in 1958″. You live in Tel Aviv -Jaffa, and are far removed from the reality of Jerusalem. Arabs live in every neighbourhood in Jerusalem, Jews do rent to them everywhere, not only in French Hill. And every lunch counter in Jerusalem, every supermarket, every Kupat Holim branch, every ward in our world-famous hospitals is also completely and totally integrated. This integration, however, does not extend to the Arab neighbourhoods (I do hesitate to use the words “West” and “East” because there are neighbourhoods in the North and South as well, that are alternatively Arab or Jewish). And that is my point: had it not been mortally dangerous for Jews to enter Issaywie, had the Arabs from that village working in French Hill supermarket not formed a cell to blow up the apartment building above it, the Border Police would not have had to patrol it perhaps? Note please that even after that cell was discovered, the Jews of our neighbourhood continue to rent their apartments to Arabs, and no one would even think (except you, perhaps?) to bar them from the cafes or the shops. As for occupation, Lisa, the entire strip of land that is now Israel is considered to be occupied by some. The Jews will try to hold on to what they can and the Arabs will try to hold on to what they can. This is the story of every country in the world: one tribe, one clan, one ethnic group claiming territory and holding it. In many cases, most recently in North America, this was also accompanied by the near annihilation of the local population. Since Palestinian birthrate under the Israeli rule has steadily increased, as has their life expectancy and education levels, this is obviously not the case.

    13. fiona
    on February 12th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
  14. So, Fiona, basically you are telling me that you are afraid of Arabs because they are a demographic threat and/or gangs of unwanted people who are crowding you out of your coffee shops and making you feel uncomfortable in your neighbourhood. Is that right?

    14. Lisa Goldman
    on February 12th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
  15. Lisa, you have (willfully?) misunderstood me and have re-arranged my writing to you to suit your agenda, I think. It is unfair and unwarranted. I was trying to make one point: Arabs work, walk, shop and get service in any Jewish neighbourhood of Jerusalem without any fear. Jews would not feel safe in any Arab neighbourhood, and it would be with good reason: they might be torn limb by limb or simply shot and stuffed into the trunk of their own car.

    I am a great admirer of your blog and was disappointed to see you resorting to cheap Bolshevik tricks of shouting down the view that differs from yours with immediate accusations of racism (a proven strategy, always) and by re-arranging and misrepresenting my own words. This is beneath you. The uneasy co-existence of Jews and Arabs in Jerusalem presents many uncomfortable truths, but it will take both sides to assess them honestly. Perhaps this will be the best hope for a true, peaceful, co-existence of these two interdependent groups. The slogans and cheap name calling, however, along with that currency that buys nothing – a cult of victimhood – are unproductive.

    15. fiona
    on February 13th, 2011 at 3:47 am
  16. Fiona, while it is true that Palestinians from East Jerusalem can walk all over Jerusalem, it is not true they can do so without any fear.

    Do you understand that Palestinian residents of East Jerusalem are not Israeli citizens? According to Israeli law, only Jews or citizens of Israel can buy property inside the pre-1967 part of Israel. That means that you can move to Jaffa if you want, but your neighbours from Issawiyeh do not have that option. Nor can they purchase a home in West Jerusalem. Your neighbourhood, French Hill, is in East Jerusalem – ie, it is occupied territory according to international law. That means that East Jerusalem residents may buy there. But they cannot buy in Talbieh or the Moshava Hagermanit, for example.

    I walked around Issawiyeh just a couple of weeks ago, speaking Hebrew, too! – and yet here I am, all my limbs intact. Meanwhile, over the past few months alone, there have been many instances of Jews attacking Arabs.

    Here are a few examples:

    A gang of teenage Jewish Israelis targeted and attacked Arabs who were just walking in the park.

    A private security guard shot and killed an unarmed community organizer while he was walking home.

    A baby died from asphyxiation from tear gas that was shot in huge quantities in the narrow, crowded streets of Issawiyeh (the tear gas was to put down an unarmed demonstration in protest of the killing of the community organizer).

    A 41 year-old father of three was shot by border police at point blank range and killed.

    Border police arrest children aged 12-15 by waking them at 3am. They take them to jail and interrogate them without an attorney or a parent present.

    I understand that you are afraid of your Palestinian neighbours, but I would suggest that your fears are more primordial than factual – and that Palestinians have much more to fear from their Jewish neighbours than the reverse.

    By the way: ‘cheap, Bolshevik trick’? What in the world are you going on about?

    16. Lisa Goldman
    on February 13th, 2011 at 10:55 am
  17. Lisa, I think Fiona has the rights of it.

    “Do you understand that Palestinian residents of East Jerusalem are not Israeli citizens? ”

    Is it not the case that they can be if they wish – that it’s just a formality?

    17. Rob
    on February 13th, 2011 at 11:23 am
  18. Rob, no: East Jerusalem residents can no longer apply for and receive Israeli citizenship. It was offered once – a long time ago – and they refused. As Palestinians living in occupied territory, they did not want to be Israeli citizens; they were Jordanian citizens and wished to remain so. As Palestinians, they want East Jerusalem to be the capital of the State of Palestine. Since Jordan gave up its claim to East Jerusalem they are, in effect, stateless.

    The Israeli government often reiterates that they offered Palestinian residents of East Jerusalem Israeli citizenship and they refused, but the implication is unclear. On the one hand the government claims that East and West Jerusalem are one united city; but on the other hand, Palestinian residents of East Jerusalem are charged municipal taxes for services they do not receive – ie, schools, garbage collection, green spaces, police stations (there is only one for all of E. Jerusalem) and health clinics (also insufficient). Furthermore, East Jerusalem residents who go abroad to work or study for a few years are often stripped of their residency rights, making them refugees – even though they were born in East Jerusalem to parents who were also born there.

    For more on the problems in East Jerusalem, I recommend this paper: http://www.chathamhouse.org.uk/files/15994_bp0210jerusalem.pdf

    For

    18. Lisa Goldman
    on February 13th, 2011 at 11:43 am
  19. Well, here’s my problem (from a long way outside). If the Palestinians in East Jerusalem are not prepared to be citizens of Israel, why should all the other citizens of Israel pay for the services which you indicate are lacking in their case? Surely the first priority of any democratic government is the security and services available to its own citizens.

    Since Jordan gave up its claim to East Jerusalem they are, in effect, stateless.

    The solution seems quite obvious to me. But I have the feeling I’m missing an important point here, so confess to being confused.

    19. Rob
    on February 13th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
  20. A conquered people cannot be coerced into accepting their occupier’s citizenship. That is immoral and illegal. If Palestinian residents of East Jerusalem wanted Israeli citizenship, that would be a different matter. However, the point is now irrelevant: the Israeli government will not give citizenship to Palestinian applicants.

    An occupying power is, however, obligated to provide services to those they occupy – particularly when they are charged taxes for those services.

    Palestinian residents of East Jerusalem do pay municipal taxes and income taxes. They do not receive the services to which they are entitled in return. ACRI has taken the Jerusalem municipality to court for its failure to provide sufficient schoolrooms for East Jerusalem. This report has more on the state of public education in East Jerusalem: http://www.acri.org.il/pdf/EJeducation2010en.pdf

    20. Lisa Goldman
    on February 13th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
  21. Hmm, well, by what right did Jordan conquer East Jerusalem in the first place, in 1948 -and hold it until 1967? How come the Palestinians were not conquered and coerced into accepting Jordanian citizenship in those years? Did they ever claim to be Palestinians during the 20 years of Jordan’s (illegal) occupation of East Jerusalem? I think not.

    21. Rob
    on February 13th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
  22. Rob, Jerusalem was divided in 1948. The UN originally wanted the city to be internationalized, but neither Transjordan nor Israel was willing to accept that. And so the two sides battled for the city, which ended up being divided.

    The Palestinian residents then became Jordanians. And yes, they were identified as Palestinian citizens of Jordan.

    Things have changed since then: Jordan no longer wants responsibility for East Jerusalem; it supports the Palestinians’ desire that it become the capital of Palestine.

    At any rate, the fact is that today, Israel will not grant citizenship to the Palestinians of East Jerusalem, even if they want it.

    I really don’t understand your logic: are you saying that the Palestinian residents of East Jerusalem deserve to be deprived of their basic rights because their parents once declined to become Israeli citizens?

    22. Lisa Goldman
    on February 13th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
  23. Your first first para is a bit disingenuous, with respect, Lisa. Proto-Israel was prepared, if not actually content, to accept the UN’s partition plan with regard to Jerusalem. The Jewish Agency’s own submissions for partition accepted Jerusalem as an international zone.

    It’s true that the UN did not donate West Jerusalem to Israel. But nor did it donate the East to Jordan. That was the result of war – a war in which the Arabs were the aggressors, and Israel the victim. Unhappily for the Arabs, Israel was the victor; but it did not gain East Jerusalem. Jews were immediately ethnically cleansed from Jerusalem, which they had inhabited for centuries.

    In 1967, faced with another war of annihilation, Israel did gain that territory, and annexed it to itself on the basis of its historical claims.

    After a lot of internal argy-bargy, for mine, I accept that the Jews’ spiritual and historical rights to East Jerusalem over-rides, on balance, any that the Palestinians might claim to have. This does not obviate those claims, but simply outweighs them.

    So, in relation to your last para, I would say: if Palestinian residents of East Jerusalem are not prepared to accept and sign up to the the responsibilities of Israeli citizenship, they should not expect to receive its benefits.

    23. Rob
    on February 13th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
  24. Rob, for the third time: the Palestinians of East Jerusalem are not eligible for Israeli citizenship.

    The Israeli government will not give them citizenship.

    So if Mohamed from Issawiyeh goes to the Minister of Interior and fills out the forms for citizenship, he will be laughed out of the office. I don’t know how much clearer I can be about this.

    24. Lisa Goldman
    on February 13th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
  25. But I read other things in other blogs. Lisa.

    Difficult to know what to believe.

    25. Rob
    on February 13th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
  26. For example, I read that every time there is increasing speculation about the imminence of a Palestinian state in East Jerusalem and the West Bank, there is a spike in applications for Israeli citizenship among Palestinian East Jerusalamites. Should I disbelieve this?

    26. Rob
    on February 13th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
  27. Rather than forming an opinion via anecdotal blogs, it is best to use reliable data. I suggest contacting B’tselem to ask how many requests for citizenship submitted by East Jerusalem residents were granted since 2007. They collect their data directly from primary sources.

    http://www.btselem.org/english/Jerusalem/Legal_Status.asp

    27. Lisa Goldman
    on February 13th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
  28. I have followed your suggestions as to reliable data with regard to BTS, and found their accounts wanting, as you know. Happy to try B’tselem but, honestly, I’d put as much faith in the researches of The Green Left Weekly.

    28. Rob
    on February 13th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
  29. And yours, I would have to say, is a very anecdotal blog. And that’s a good thing.

    29. Rob
    on February 13th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
  30. Rob, the Israeli army has praised B’tselem for its accurate compilation of data.

    The army has also never disputed BTS’s data compilation – only attacking BTS for the fact that they compile the data in the first place. I was quite shocked by your indifferent response to 10 years of testimony that amount to a picture of sustained cruelty by an occupying power against defenseless civilians, but that is for another discussion.

    30. Lisa Goldman
    on February 13th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
  31. Well, I just looked at the testimonies regarding Cast Lead, and didn’t see anything other than one report to react to negatively – and I understand the IDF did so as well, and subjected the soldiers concerned to disciplinary action.

    And what a wonderful thing it is that the IDF has praised B’tselem. I can’t see Hamas or Hizbollah doing the same, in the unlikely eventuality that any such organisation should see the light of day in jurisdictions that they controlled.

    31. Rob
    on February 13th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
  32. Actually, Hamas accepted the Goldstone Commission’s recommendation that it form an investigative committee to look into possible commission of war crimes. Israel, of course, did not accept the Commission’s report.

    It is untrue that soldiers and officers accused of war crimes have been investigated and punished. There were one or two cases of a slap on the wrist, but no real investigation or punishment.

    And why in the world is it necessary to compare? An evil act is not less evil because others have done worse.

    32. Lisa Goldman
    on February 13th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
  33. Praised BTS, sorry.

    33. Rob
    on February 13th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
  34. Lisa, it is impossible to believe that you are really that naive. I just don’t know where to begin or finish with this.

    Look, I’m sorry to say it, but it really is so. Just re-read your last post. What do you think Hamas is going to do with its malfeasants?

    34. Rob
    on February 13th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
  35. Look, Rob. Whether you like it or not, I do know what I am talking about. You can disagree with my facts, but your calling me naive is unacceptable. I find your interpretation of Israeli-Palestinian history dubious at best and reactionary at worst, but as long as your comments are fact-based (or somewhat related to facts) I am prepared to engage. Otherwise, not.

    35. Lisa Goldman
    on February 13th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
  36. Alright, Lisa, but call me on the facts, then. You haven’t effectively disputed anything that I have said, in this thread or others, on the facts. You just offer emotive responses. Now, I respect that, I relate to that, but it’s just not definitive, and you don’t have any right to expect that it is.

    OK, on the facts, I call, I interpret. On those same facts, you call, you interpret. Nothing wrong with that, even if our interpretations collide.

    Your readers can decide. That’s what blogging is all about.

    36. Rob
    on February 13th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
  37. Thanks for this dense report.
    What a sad development Jaffa did undergo. You write “The Arabs of Jaffa are mostly poor – impoverished, even. Some of them are migrant workers from the villages in the Galilee”. Just a few weeks ago there was an israeli-palestinia film festival in Munich. One of the documentaries was “Jaffa – an orange’s clockwork”. Outstanding” How vivid, rich and busy was Jaffa the, in the beginning of the century, when Arabs and Jews managed to live and work together.
    Hope you enjoy your stay there. I loved “Dr. Shakshuka” when I spent some days there in may last year. Best, Mike

    37. Mike
    on February 22nd, 2011 at 9:24 pm
  38. Lisa, sorry for getting back to you so late. I see that you have carefully sidestepped many of the points in my posts but that’s OK. After reading your responses to Rob, I see that your point of view is implacable. Let me make just one point here. It is not unusual for countries worldwide to not allow non-citizens to purchase property. It is also not unusual for countries to DENY citizenship or even to strip naturalized citizens of their citizenship, if deemed necessary. The fact that Arabs from Issaywie cannot purchase property in Talbieh should not be alarming to anybody then. Talbieh is within the June 1967 borders, is internationally recognized as State of Israel proper, and non-citizens do not automatically enjoy the rights of purchasing property there. But let’s look at this residency thing from another angle for a second. While even you concede that Arabs live, work and go freely all over Jerusalem, and nobody would deny that Arabs who are Israeli citizens can do the same all over Israel, the basic premise of any and all of Israel-Palestinian negotiations is the removal of settlements. Translated into simple language, that means that the new state of Palestine will be judenrein. I see more than a little asymmetry here. Just like I see more than a little asymmetry in the quietly acknowledged fact that Arabs can rent and live unmolested in our neighbourhood of French Hill but no Jew can rent in Issaywie and hope to live through the night.

    38. fiona
    on February 23rd, 2011 at 7:07 pm
  39. Fiona, this conversation is getting pretty tedious. You accuse me of sidestepping issues, but in fact you are the one who is not addressing the core issue – ie, that Palestinian residents of Jerusalem do not have the legal or civil rights that Jews have.

    1. Jews do live in Issawiyeh and they are very much alive. If you want to live there, go ahead. The schools and amenities are pretty poor, though, so you might not like it.

    2. French Hill is in occupied East Jerusalem. That is why East Jerusalem residents are allowed to purchase and rent there.

    3. Israel’s position is that East and West Jerusalem are one city, under Israeli authority. Therefore, a resident of East Jerusalem should- both legally and morally – have the right to buy a home anywhere in Jerusalem or in Israel. If Irving Moskowitz can purchase a home in Issawiyeh, even though he is neither an Israeli citizen nor a tax-paying resident, then the fact that an East Jerusalem resident, who does pay Israeli taxes, cannot buy a home in Talbieh should disturb you and every person with a conscience very much. In other words, it is NOT true that non-citizens are forbidden to buy property in Talbieh. Jewish non-citizens can buy there. But East Jerusalem Palestinians, who were born in Jerusalem, cannot.

    4. I find it odd that you are not disturbed at the idea of Palestinians being denied basic rights, while you are very disturbed at the idea of Jews hypothetically being forbidden to live in a putative Palestinian state. By the way, the Palestinian Authority has stated several times that it does not have a problem with Jews living in Palestine. They do have a problem with Jews confiscating their land and water and having the benefits of citizens while Palestinians have no civil or legal rights at all and are ruled by military authority.

    5. The settlements are the most important obstacle to peace talks right now because their existence makes the lives of Palestinians in the West Bank impossible. The checkpoints, the route of the separation barrier and the diversion of water and land to settlements and away from Palestinians are all factors that have combined to impoverish them (because they cannot get to work), limit their freedom of movement drastically and separate them from their own farmland (because it is either confiscated for the separation barrier or for settlements like Beitar Illit).

    Now, before you start telling me that the purpose of the separation barrier is to stop terrorists, I will first tell you that based on my experience the barrier is completely porous and is therefore in no way, shape or form a deterrent to terrorists. For more on this, you can call Hamoked or the Workers’ Hotline to confirm that about 50,000 West Bank Palestinians without permits enter Israel to work every day, by circumventing the checkpoints. But let’s say the barrier really was an effective means of stopping terrorists. In that case, as the Palestinians have said many times, it should have been built on the green line. But instead it has been built in order to protect the settlers, by digging deep into the West Bank. Palestinians are surrounded by walls. They cannot walk or drive around their own territory. They cannot get to work. They cannot work on their own farmland.

    And you are upset because some day, if there is a Palestinian state, Jews might not be able to live there? I think you should worry today about the fact that Palestinians in the West Bank are living without rights, without legal recourse, and under a heavy military occupation that denies them even their dignity.

    39. Lisa Goldman
    on February 28th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
  40. Lisa, I wish I could retract my previous lengthy post because it veered too far off the subject. “Brevity is a sister of genius” as Chekhov rightly remarked. Let’s be brief, then. Once the borders of the Palestinian State are drawn, there will be a much needed clarity. And borders. If Issaywieh remains part of Israel (and most of its citizens privately fervently pray and wish for this), then, as Israeli citizens, they should be able to buy, rent, work and travel whenever they wish inside the State of Israel. Should Issaywieh become part of the Palestinian State (something that I support), then they will be free to do what they want inside Palestine, but will face restrictions vis-a-vis their financial and traveling arrangements inside the State of Israel. This will not be unusual or unprecedented, many countries, including the US, have a visa regime and other financial and traveling regulations for foreigners.

    I don’t think that settlements are the biggest obstacle to peace: the settlements in Gaza were dismantled, and so was the town of Yamit when a Peace Treaty with Egypt was signed.

    The biggest contradiction and a possible obstacle that I see is that the Palestinians want both to have their own state and to be able to settle in Israel. The Right of Return is their pre-condition to the final settlement, after all.

    I think both sides have to be realistic. Israel has to write off the ancestral town of Hebron, no matter how many thousands of Jews were born there, and the town of Beth Lehem, no matter that it is the birthplace of King David. Palestinians have to decide that they want to have their own state and try to bring it prosperity by living and working within its borders. Any returning descendants of the refugees will have to settle in Palestine, not in Israel. However, those Palestinians who do remain in Israel will have to take a full Israeli citizenship, complete with the Pledge of Allegiance, Army Service etc.

    I hope we can agree on this, Lisa?

    40. fiona
    on March 6th, 2011 at 9:55 pm

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