Comments on: Come meet Miriam Libicki in Tel Aviv

By: Jim Ludwig

Jim Ludwig — Sun, 07 Dec 2008 23:27:57 +0000

I would like to talk to Mirium about a graphic novel idea.
I would like her to link up with a famous and successful author on the project.
Jim ludwig

By: Nicola

Nicola — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 19:31:25 +0000

@Idan: I wish that were true, but unless thing have changed with the US military since I was serving (which is certainly possible), they didn’t have quite the same attitude to weapons safety. In HM Forces, if we had a ‘negligent’ discharge we’d almost certainly face Courts Martial, where as if US personnel had an ‘accidental’ discharge, so long as they didn’t actually hit anyone or anything valuable, they just had to pay for the round (so a few cents).
Of course this may be some kind of urban legend, but it was a US Army Lt-Col who told me about the policy, so unless she was winding me up…! Maybe that attitude is why there are so many shootings in the US compared with, say Canada, even though I’m pretty sure I read that gun ownership is proportionally similar to the US?!
Nice to see that the IDF takes weapons drills seriously!

By: Idan Gazit

Idan Gazit — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 14:38:03 +0000

Photos from the event are up at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/idangazit/sets/72157607246955828/show/

@Nicola: thanks! I imagine that any military that cares for the lives of its soldiers would implement a similar doctrine. I think that it is particularly important here, where the trainees are largely 18-year-old hotheads.

By: The Jewish Culture Log of Arts » Blog Archive » meet Paul Buhle, Miriam Libicki, or Arie Kaplan

Wed, 10 Sep 2008 23:03:18 +0000

[...] journalist Lisa Goldman reports at her blog (On the Face) that Canadian cartoonist Miriam Libicki (author of the jobnik comic book series, the first 6 [...]

By: Nicola

Nicola — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:17:07 +0000

Thanks Lisa, as a female who has served in the (British) military and is now trying to build a career in documentary photography, whilst also dabbling in graphic stories on the side, your blog entry was almost tailor made for me! I found both Miriam Libicki’s and Rachel Papo’s work very interesting and will look for both books on Amazon.

I also found Idan Gazit’s comments in the BoingBoing post really interesting, especially the IDF’s emphasis on weapons training, which pretty much matched how we are trained here in the UK (although we get to lock our rifles away in the armoury when we are off duty).

By: Maxim

Maxim — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 20:57:11 +0000

I loved the story and the pictures, I’ll do my best to come this Friday, may be just for a half an hour, I’ve got some idea about it. Do you really mean you start at 11?

Yup, starting at 11. I’d love to see you there, too. Lisa

By: beachdiary

beachdiary — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 20:14:14 +0000

Sounds like fun. I think I might be coming around if I can make it.
Tse.

By: Mo-ha-med

Mo-ha-med — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 19:21:28 +0000

I enjoyed that! Will try to make it on friday.
The name of the store is quite amusing as well and will, in itself, be an extra reason for me to come!

marscitizen wrote: “I thought it was generally accepted by now that this footage was faked”
Of course. Among racist negationists, it is. Jeez. I had no idea people like you, marscitizen, still existed. Piles of bodies obviously won’t make it, for you. A shame indeed.

@Mohamed: I don’t think calling Mars Citizen a “racist negationist” is, um, a constructive way to engage in debate about a controversial and tragic subject. Easy, tiger, k? xx Lisa

By: miriam libicki

miriam libicki — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 17:28:27 +0000

hooray! it is true, we have a bunch of odd & entertaining parallels in our canadian-american-israeli lives.

& there’s no need to change your post, but i am an insecure perfectionist artist, so i am compelled to tell you that in my recent redrawing frenzy i redrew those four pages also.

marscitizen, i haven’t read much about the forgery claims, so i don’t have an opinion one way or the other. but in israel, at the time (october 2000), it seemed very real, awful, & our fault. & not just to me, i believe, to most people. i think the idf even apologized. that’s what i’m writing about.

By: marscitizen

marscitizen — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 12:50:14 +0000

I don’t really have much to say about the Jobnik! series, because this is the first time I read about it. But it sure seems interesting. It makes me think of Persepolis a bit, but I’m probably not the first one to come up with that.

I didn’t mean to judge Miriam and her work just because she mentions the al Dura incident. It had a very big impact on Arab public opinion. I didn’t know about it’s impact on Israelis, but I can imagine it must be hard to see such images if your country is held responsible for the death of that boy. I can imagine that changes your view on politics. And if it does, it’s only natural to mention it in an autobiographical work.

But I never really thought about the impact of this incident on Israelis before. That’s why I found it strange to see it being mentioned as a fact in an Israeli graphic novel, while the boy we saw in that footage is probably still alive today. But I guess that doesn’t really matter anymore. Myths change history, it happens all the time.