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		<title>By: Notes from the Underground: Iranians and Israelis connect online &#124; ex oriente</title>
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		<dc:creator>Notes from the Underground: Iranians and Israelis connect online &#124; ex oriente</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2010 04:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Post is also available in: GermanThe following article is Lisa Goldmans translation of a piece that was published in January 2008 on Nana, one of Israel’s biggest news and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ex oriente » Notes from the Underground: Iraner und Israelis tauschen sich online aus</title>
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		<dc:creator>ex oriente » Notes from the Underground: Iraner und Israelis tauschen sich online aus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 12:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Bloggerin Lisa Goldman, die Ido interviewt hat, hat seinen Artikel ins Englische übersetzt und  in ihrem Blog veröffentlicht. Mittlerweile hat auch Idos Interviewpartner, der israelische Blogger Arash Karamandschir den [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Bloggerin Lisa Goldman, die Ido interviewt hat, hat seinen Artikel ins Englische übersetzt und  in ihrem Blog veröffentlicht. Mittlerweile hat auch Idos Interviewpartner, der israelische Blogger Arash Karamandschir den [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Global Voices Online &#187; Iran and Israel: foes forever or future friends?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Global Voices Online &#187; Iran and Israel: foes forever or future friends?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] possibility of mending relations between Iran and Israel is reflected in the blogosphere as well: Lisa Goldman translates Notes from the Underground: Iranians and Israelis connect online from Hebrew.... The article, written by  Ido Hartogsohn for Nana, an Israeli entertainment portal, speaks about [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] possibility of mending relations between Iran and Israel is reflected in the blogosphere as well: Lisa Goldman translates Notes from the Underground: Iranians and Israelis connect online from Hebrew&#8230;. The article, written by  Ido Hartogsohn for Nana, an Israeli entertainment portal, speaks about [...]</p>
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		<title>By: elinor(Iran)</title>
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		<dc:creator>elinor(Iran)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops :) that was me SHa1, I mistekenly typed your nickname instead of mine first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops <img src='http://lisagoldman.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  that was me SHa1, I mistekenly typed your nickname instead of mine first.</p>
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		<title>By: SHA1</title>
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		<dc:creator>SHA1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SHA1,
It is wonderful to hear from an Israeli teenager :)
SHa1, I loved this blog as well, and I feel so good communicating with you guys , thanks to Lisa from Israel and Arash Kamangir, an Iranian who provided us with the link to her blog :)
SHa1 dear, I hope all the best for you, I hope very soon you witness the best things that could happen in Middle East and teenagers like you who are the real treasury of the Middle East benefit and create the better future we all deserve :)
Thank you for your advice SHA1 ,
Shalom :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SHA1,<br />
It is wonderful to hear from an Israeli teenager <img src='http://lisagoldman.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
SHa1, I loved this blog as well, and I feel so good communicating with you guys , thanks to Lisa from Israel and Arash Kamangir, an Iranian who provided us with the link to her blog <img src='http://lisagoldman.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
SHa1 dear, I hope all the best for you, I hope very soon you witness the best things that could happen in Middle East and teenagers like you who are the real treasury of the Middle East benefit and create the better future we all deserve <img src='http://lisagoldman.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Thank you for your advice SHA1 ,<br />
Shalom <img src='http://lisagoldman.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: SHA1</title>
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		<dc:creator>SHA1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazing blog, I&#039;ve felt somewhat enlighten after reading the comments. I&#039;m an Israeli teenager, who wishes this blog and his goals all the best. Talking works all we need is the freedom for both sides to do it.

About the privacy, I would definitely recommend to use &quot;Tor&quot; which is a great tool, well suited to the purpose of blogging anonymously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing blog, I&#8217;ve felt somewhat enlighten after reading the comments. I&#8217;m an Israeli teenager, who wishes this blog and his goals all the best. Talking works all we need is the freedom for both sides to do it.</p>
<p>About the privacy, I would definitely recommend to use &#8220;Tor&#8221; which is a great tool, well suited to the purpose of blogging anonymously.</p>
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		<title>By: elinor(Iran)</title>
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		<dc:creator>elinor(Iran)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 18:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beja :)
It is right dear, we are indeed scared of being ourselves...
But I recall this story of  Hans Christian Anderson, the story of the naked king, the one who parraded wearing the invisible garments that two taylors made for the king, it was said only the ones who were not bastards could see it. People were scared of admitting the fact that the king was naked, he denied being naked altogether, so people would even cheer him, praising the glory of his garmets !
A kid shouts : &quot; King is naked!!&quot;
so people go: &quot; Oh  did you hear that nasty kid?&quot; , &quot; How could he...&quot;

Any way a fact cannot be hidden for a long time, you cannot hide it in a closet, you cannot even hide it in your mind, it pops up, as persistantly as all these ads pop ups :)
Now the fact that i am talking about is the need for the people of the world in general, and people of our region in particular, to communicate and exchange views , to find out how as human beings they respect and regard one another&#039;s  being.
Iran has a very respectful Jewish community, a very Persian nationalist Jewish community, which through out the history of Iran has contributed much to the culture and civilization of Iran.
The conditions back home has forced many people , many gems of the society to leave home and live out of the country, but they have the love and the image of the land that embraced them as they were delivered into this unknown world.... they keep that love with them wherever they are, this Arash Kamangir who is an Iranian blogger in this conceptual world of communication, he is one of the gems I am talking about and we have many others, many in Israel, in Canada, USA, many other countries whom we can call the true representatives of our nation, rather than the ones who make their way to the so called parliament as the representatives of our nation....
Beja,
We can be hopeful for the better days my dear, because it is already being better than yesterday, yesterday there wasn&#039;t a way that you from the place you are communicate with me from where I am.
Looking forward to sharing a better world, a world which could be the homeland to all of us, then we could be the civilans of the same ....Homeland.
Conceptually this is happening at least :)
Be well</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beja <img src='http://lisagoldman.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
It is right dear, we are indeed scared of being ourselves&#8230;<br />
But I recall this story of  Hans Christian Anderson, the story of the naked king, the one who parraded wearing the invisible garments that two taylors made for the king, it was said only the ones who were not bastards could see it. People were scared of admitting the fact that the king was naked, he denied being naked altogether, so people would even cheer him, praising the glory of his garmets !<br />
A kid shouts : &#8221; King is naked!!&#8221;<br />
so people go: &#8221; Oh  did you hear that nasty kid?&#8221; , &#8221; How could he&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Any way a fact cannot be hidden for a long time, you cannot hide it in a closet, you cannot even hide it in your mind, it pops up, as persistantly as all these ads pop ups <img src='http://lisagoldman.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Now the fact that i am talking about is the need for the people of the world in general, and people of our region in particular, to communicate and exchange views , to find out how as human beings they respect and regard one another&#8217;s  being.<br />
Iran has a very respectful Jewish community, a very Persian nationalist Jewish community, which through out the history of Iran has contributed much to the culture and civilization of Iran.<br />
The conditions back home has forced many people , many gems of the society to leave home and live out of the country, but they have the love and the image of the land that embraced them as they were delivered into this unknown world&#8230;. they keep that love with them wherever they are, this Arash Kamangir who is an Iranian blogger in this conceptual world of communication, he is one of the gems I am talking about and we have many others, many in Israel, in Canada, USA, many other countries whom we can call the true representatives of our nation, rather than the ones who make their way to the so called parliament as the representatives of our nation&#8230;.<br />
Beja,<br />
We can be hopeful for the better days my dear, because it is already being better than yesterday, yesterday there wasn&#8217;t a way that you from the place you are communicate with me from where I am.<br />
Looking forward to sharing a better world, a world which could be the homeland to all of us, then we could be the civilans of the same &#8230;.Homeland.<br />
Conceptually this is happening at least <img src='http://lisagoldman.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Be well</p>
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		<title>By: elinor(Iran)</title>
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		<dc:creator>elinor(Iran)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arash,
You need to come to Iran one day, just to raise some more Kamangirs :) I just imagine the day we could be free expressing ourselves and voicing our views which could be quite contrary to the doctrines voiced on behalf of our Nation...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arash,<br />
You need to come to Iran one day, just to raise some more Kamangirs <img src='http://lisagoldman.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I just imagine the day we could be free expressing ourselves and voicing our views which could be quite contrary to the doctrines voiced on behalf of our Nation&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Beja</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 20:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.

Can&#039;t say much else but I&#039;ll try:

I&#039;ve always thought about this idea, and I know it&#039;s possible and that there&#039;s a way to do it. Blogging and the Internet. Come on! It&#039;s just making way too much sense. The sad part but undeniable part is that many Iranians in Iran will be too scared to do it...i.e. communicate with Israelis bc of the implications of what will happen to them if anyone finds out. It&#039;s just sad but is there a way to avoid that fire?

Could people have a website where they can go through proxies or something (I&#039;m NOT a computer savvy blogger, just so u know) that way they can communicate but their stats are hidden??

I don&#039;t know...you smart people get working on this!!

I know and also can agree with much of what was said; people in public curse what they perceive to be the IRI and the religion (not talking about the religion they practice at home which is much simpler and doesn&#039;t require stoning their daughters). Young men and women are always after talking to foreigners. And I know that lots of people are good friends with Jews and also have Jewish backgrounds but converted to Islam in the last century...that&#039;s cool.

THANK u!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t say much else but I&#8217;ll try:</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always thought about this idea, and I know it&#8217;s possible and that there&#8217;s a way to do it. Blogging and the Internet. Come on! It&#8217;s just making way too much sense. The sad part but undeniable part is that many Iranians in Iran will be too scared to do it&#8230;i.e. communicate with Israelis bc of the implications of what will happen to them if anyone finds out. It&#8217;s just sad but is there a way to avoid that fire?</p>
<p>Could people have a website where they can go through proxies or something (I&#8217;m NOT a computer savvy blogger, just so u know) that way they can communicate but their stats are hidden??</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know&#8230;you smart people get working on this!!</p>
<p>I know and also can agree with much of what was said; people in public curse what they perceive to be the IRI and the religion (not talking about the religion they practice at home which is much simpler and doesn&#8217;t require stoning their daughters). Young men and women are always after talking to foreigners. And I know that lots of people are good friends with Jews and also have Jewish backgrounds but converted to Islam in the last century&#8230;that&#8217;s cool.</p>
<p>THANK u!</p>
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		<title>By: Kamangir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kamangir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 20:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I keep coming here and keep enjoying the comments. Thanks Lisa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I keep coming here and keep enjoying the comments. Thanks Lisa.</p>
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