Comments on: Time Out in Beirut and Tel Aviv http://lisagoldman.net/2006/07/31/time-out-in-beirut-and-tel-aviv/ Previously On the Face Fri, 09 Mar 2012 01:25:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Say goodbye nicely to peace | Lisa Goldman http://lisagoldman.net/2006/07/31/time-out-in-beirut-and-tel-aviv/comment-page-1/#comment-5106 Say goodbye nicely to peace | Lisa Goldman Thu, 15 Jan 2009 09:30:50 +0000 http://pixane.net/lisa/?p=297#comment-5106 [...] parodies the wildly popular “Big Brother” reality TV show that ended last month. (I blogged about his friendship with the editor of of Time Out Beirut during the Second Lebanon War). The hosts of the show were [...] [...] parodies the wildly popular “Big Brother” reality TV show that ended last month. (I blogged about his friendship with the editor of of Time Out Beirut during the Second Lebanon War). The hosts of the show were [...]

]]> By: Anonymous http://lisagoldman.net/2006/07/31/time-out-in-beirut-and-tel-aviv/comment-page-1/#comment-1123 Anonymous Wed, 31 Dec 1969 23:59:59 +0000 http://pixane.net/lisa/?p=297#comment-1123 As always, a great read, Lisa. The following line strikes very close to the heart: <blockquote>"People say terrible things, sometimes, when they are under emotional stress. Sometimes you just have to step back and let the bile flow, until it dries up of its own accord and reason re-asserts itself. "</blockquote> As always, a great read, Lisa.
The following line strikes very close to the heart:

“People say terrible things, sometimes, when they are under emotional stress. Sometimes you just have to step back and let the bile flow, until it dries up of its own accord and reason re-asserts itself. “

]]> By: Anonymous http://lisagoldman.net/2006/07/31/time-out-in-beirut-and-tel-aviv/comment-page-1/#comment-1124 Anonymous Wed, 31 Dec 1969 23:59:59 +0000 http://pixane.net/lisa/?p=297#comment-1124 "People say terrible things, sometimes, when they are under emotional stress. Sometimes you just have to step back and let the bile flow, until it dries up of its own accord and reason re-asserts itself." I'm glad you said this. It is important to remember the difference between anger and hate. “People say terrible things, sometimes, when they are under emotional stress. Sometimes you just have to step back and let the bile flow, until it dries up of its own accord and reason re-asserts itself.”
I'm glad you said this. It is important to remember the difference between anger and hate.

]]> By: Anonymous http://lisagoldman.net/2006/07/31/time-out-in-beirut-and-tel-aviv/comment-page-1/#comment-1125 Anonymous Wed, 31 Dec 1969 23:59:59 +0000 http://pixane.net/lisa/?p=297#comment-1125 This story hit very close to home for me. I have a jordanian friend who visited israel for the first time a few years ago. he had grown up his whole life believing it was a place full of colonialists, arab-haters and oppressors. He visited the country and fell in love with it (and with the beautiful israeli women, I think!) He was in beirut at the time of the bombing, working there, and wrote an email to a group of friends about his experience. The vitriol, anger and -- who knows? -- apparent hatred felt like a personal assault. I didn't feel angry at him, but just deeply weary. I haven't been able to bring myself to email him back yet -- I dont know what to say. Hope slowly slips away when we, who have first hand experience on both sides, can't maintain our empathy during times like these This story hit very close to home for me. I have a jordanian friend who visited israel for the first time a few years ago. he had grown up his whole life believing it was a place full of colonialists, arab-haters and oppressors. He visited the country and fell in love with it (and with the beautiful israeli women, I think!) He was in beirut at the time of the bombing, working there, and wrote an email to a group of friends about his experience. The vitriol, anger and — who knows? — apparent hatred felt like a personal assault. I didn't feel angry at him, but just deeply weary. I haven't been able to bring myself to email him back yet — I dont know what to say. Hope slowly slips away when we, who have first hand experience on both sides, can't maintain our empathy during times like these

]]> By: Anonymous http://lisagoldman.net/2006/07/31/time-out-in-beirut-and-tel-aviv/comment-page-1/#comment-1126 Anonymous Wed, 31 Dec 1969 23:59:59 +0000 http://pixane.net/lisa/?p=297#comment-1126 Here in Canada, we watch, and feel so impotent to say anything that will help bring peace for all the people of Israel and Lebanon. I have a dear friend who will be going to Afghanistan as part of our Peacekeeping deployment. He, like most military personnel has a family, a wife and two teenage boys. We sadden at the very thought of life lost. Shalom! Here in Canada, we watch, and feel so impotent to say anything that will help bring peace for all the people of Israel and Lebanon.
I have a dear friend who will be going to Afghanistan as part of our Peacekeeping deployment. He, like most military personnel has a family, a wife and two teenage boys. We sadden at the very thought of life lost. Shalom!

]]> By: Anonymous http://lisagoldman.net/2006/07/31/time-out-in-beirut-and-tel-aviv/comment-page-1/#comment-1127 Anonymous Wed, 31 Dec 1969 23:59:59 +0000 http://pixane.net/lisa/?p=297#comment-1127 Lisa, this is such a powerful story. Not entirely because of the story itself, but because of the way you tell it. Incredibly sensitive and subtle on your part... such a gifted writer and thinker. are you... :) Dan C. Lisa, this is such a powerful story. Not entirely because of the story itself, but because of the way you tell it. Incredibly sensitive and subtle on your part… such a gifted writer and thinker. are you… :)
Dan C.

]]> By: Anonymous http://lisagoldman.net/2006/07/31/time-out-in-beirut-and-tel-aviv/comment-page-1/#comment-1128 Anonymous Wed, 31 Dec 1969 23:59:59 +0000 http://pixane.net/lisa/?p=297#comment-1128 Doesn't it say something. When moderates. The enlightened ones, like Ramsay, flip. It says something. But is anyone listening? I used to want peace more than anything. Now, I don't want it at all. Doesn't it say something. When moderates. The enlightened ones, like Ramsay, flip.
It says something. But is anyone listening?
I used to want peace more than anything. Now, I don't want it at all.

]]> By: Anonymous http://lisagoldman.net/2006/07/31/time-out-in-beirut-and-tel-aviv/comment-page-1/#comment-1129 Anonymous Wed, 31 Dec 1969 23:59:59 +0000 http://pixane.net/lisa/?p=297#comment-1129 So you want a perpetuation of war, PR? What do you think peace is? Peace, at its most basic level it is the cessation of death and violence. You don't want that to stop? You want people to keep killing each other? Not to get all into semantics, but I think you are saying you don't have a taste for making nice with parties you are angry with. Which is your right. But peace. Peace is so much more than that. So you want a perpetuation of war, PR? What do you think peace is?
Peace, at its most basic level it is the cessation of death and violence. You don't want that to stop? You want people to keep killing each other?
Not to get all into semantics, but I think you are saying you don't have a taste for making nice with parties you are angry with. Which is your right. But peace. Peace is so much more than that.

]]> By: Anonymous http://lisagoldman.net/2006/07/31/time-out-in-beirut-and-tel-aviv/comment-page-1/#comment-1130 Anonymous Wed, 31 Dec 1969 23:59:59 +0000 http://pixane.net/lisa/?p=297#comment-1130 "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." -JS Mill, 1863 “War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.” -JS Mill, 1863

]]> By: Anonymous http://lisagoldman.net/2006/07/31/time-out-in-beirut-and-tel-aviv/comment-page-1/#comment-1131 Anonymous Wed, 31 Dec 1969 23:59:59 +0000 http://pixane.net/lisa/?p=297#comment-1131 I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it. -Jack Handey I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it. -Jack Handey

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